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Crank It Up

Postby dalfontion » Thu Apr 25, 2013 9:07 am

Now we can see exactely how many resources NHS is using, do you think we should just keep cranking up the thread count? For instance I recently upped the threads and searching to 50/45 respectively and proxys to 40 (using harverster). I get pretty good results and going to lift higher but just thought would get your thoughts on using something like threads and searching 100/90 and proxy harvester to stop at 90?
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Re: Crank It Up

Postby jimbobo2779 » Fri Apr 26, 2013 1:58 pm

I would say that 40 proxies is incredibly low for that amount of searching proxies. You will be burning through your proxies before you get more than a few successful search results pages loaded. The proxy harvester will likely never actually get to 90 working proxies.

The number of threads is rarely limited by the machine and far more often limited by the internet connection.
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Re: Crank It Up

Postby hackersmovie » Fri Apr 26, 2013 5:51 pm

IMHO, increasing the threads/searching etc. to anything over 20-30 is a waste. Why people are so concerned with how fast they are building links is beyond me. Your efforts will be much more effective by using the old "tortoise and the hare" mentality. That is: "slow and steady wins the race". I am promoting almost 200 money sites (some my own, many are clients) and I've used this method for as long as I can remember. It has served me well. I have countless #1 ranked keywords for a varying amount of difficulty, all around the world.
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Re: Crank It Up

Postby dalfontion » Sun May 05, 2013 2:43 am

Yeah been testing with the new updates, verified links not going up as much as they did before updates which is strange. Using proxy harvester what settings do you guys use on the proxy tab now?
I set the threads back down as you were correct they just burned through proxies faster than could find them which is a pity as looked like the system handled it all okay (as in thread count) and seeing as I am running multiple profiles all with plenty of internal pages I am not worried about building too many links. Given as well most links will likely not get accepted, or indexed, or maybe not even count for much I am not worried about over doing it. What are some of the main settings you find to get the most verified links?
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Re: Crank It Up

Postby jimbobo2779 » Mon May 06, 2013 10:47 am

Personally I would never use the proxy harvester, but if you were to use it I would really limit the number of searching threads to 1 or 2 and just use them for searching as using them for posting will really lessen the number of links you can create. To be honest I always had better results not using any proxies than I did using the public ones but obviously that doesn't hide your IP when posting so if that is a priority then you will need to be using proxies.
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Re: Crank It Up

Postby hackersmovie » Mon May 06, 2013 1:44 pm

dalfontion wrote:...I am not worried about building too many links....


There is no such thing as "too many links", EVER.


jimbobo2779 wrote:To be honest I always had better results not using any proxies than I did using the public ones but obviously that doesn't hide your IP when posting so if that is a priority then you will need to be using proxies.


PRIVATE PROXIES!!!! This is a MUST for any link building, IMHO. I use super fast VPS's with SSD's and I use super fast private proxies. For 200+ accounts being promoted, I have 50 super fast private proxies that are used in 4 different SEO software's. I've never had an issue, ever.

Keep in mind, I follow the 'slow and steady' method of building links so I never have to worry about burning out proxies, getting banned, etc. Automated software tools can be a massive benefit to your website or clients if you are an SEO company but, as with anything in life, they must be used wisely....

My 2 pence...
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Re: Crank It Up

Postby dalfontion » Tue May 07, 2013 8:08 am

Since the update it seems my success rate for verified links has dropped substantially. I was using 50 threads with 40 for searching and proxy harvester which seemed to work great. Now I can't seem to get enough proxies even when reducing threads and search to 10/10 . This is same on both PCs. The new thread test is a good idea, I am assuming with private proxys you could go higher numbers th

Just checking, if I check the Proxy Harvester box, do I also need to tick the Public Proxies and then select use this for searching, posting etc in both areas?

Also I've tried even setting proxy harvester to 5 minute intervals but no success in scraping enough (only get 5-15) but only since last update.

Lastly it looks in the log like a lot of successful links created, but not seeing verified links go up so assuming then it means all the created links are deleted?

Just strange that only had an issue when the new options for proxys was introduced so must be something with those settings.
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Re: Crank It Up

Postby jimbobo2779 » Thu May 09, 2013 6:43 pm

If you are not entering any proxies and you are entirely depending on the harvested proxies of NHSEO then you do not need to enable the other proxy options as they will not add anything.

The amount of links you create will always be dependant on the proxy harvester, the proxies it provides are not reliable and never will be so this will be why you have more variance in the amount of links created.

If you make the proxy harvester check proxies every 5 minutes that just means that you will be searching and checking proxies which could take anywhere from a few minutes to about 20 mins and then just 5 minutes posting and right back to proxy duties, this is yet another reason why relying on the proxy harvester is not a long term plan. I find around 15minutes is about the sweet spot for proxy checking.

A successful post is not a link created. A successful post means the submission was accepted, it does not mean the link is live. On most platforms this means that the post is awaiting moderation and if it is ever moderated and accepted it will become a live link then. Obviously the chance of a submission being accepted really relies very heavily on whether you are using niche related comments that look natural and posted by a real person. If you are not using hand written comments it is unlikely any posts that did not result in an auto-approved link (saved as having a confirmed link) will turn into a backlink.

The new proxy settings have allowed the user to change the proxy settings, it was all tested very vigorously and is definitely all working as it should. Originally the proxy harvester proxies would only be used for searching as it is just a terrible idea to rely on these very unreliable proxies for posting whereas now users have the option to use them for posting.
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Re: Crank It Up

Postby dalfontion » Fri May 10, 2013 5:29 am

Thank you Jimbo for clearing the proxies up. As Hacker said probably better using private service, I'll have to look around to find a good private supplier with daily proxy lists or something to create as many links as possible. I appreciate the slow and steady mentality but I just build as many links a possible using NHSEO and other apps and never had an issue, just link diversity, naked domains for anchors, and having a schedule so I am not just blasting the same site day after day, but rotate around my different money sites (which also interlink on different IP addresses with different website hosts and internal link with similar content pages but unique content). All seems to work okay.

One thing, for the Link Checker, is this advisable to run every now and again? I imagine the program runs link checks itself anyway to check for valid and confirmed links?

Also for people who have been running NHSEO for a while, is it a good idea to choose the "Re-scan keywords" and "re-post to WHOis" options?

Also lastly, noticed in latest update you changed the Captcha service? If so thank you as I use Death By and I noticed in log a lot of time if Captcha was present it would just skip. Could be wrong but what it looked like to me.

All the best and thank you for the latest updates, very much appreciated!
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Re: Crank It Up

Postby jimbobo2779 » Sun May 12, 2013 11:41 am

I very very rarely run the Link Checker as there is just little point in doing so tbh. Also with some of the new platforms being added it will not be possible to track the link on the site, for example I think it is DedEIMS platform that as new posts are made to the page your post will go through the pages and make it hard/impossible for a link checker to find it. This type of thing will make it look like the link is no longer there when it is still on the website just pushed to a different page. All posts are checked automatically as NHSEO runs anyway.

You can choose re-scan keywords but you may find that you get far less targets the second time round (and less still on all subsequent runs) as NHSEO will not bombard the same website with posts and as such if it searches and finds a page it has already posted to it will ignore it, this will happen a lot when re-scanning. Re-scanning keywords is more if people have been running without proxies or with bad proxies so they don't need to remove the profile and start again. You have little to gain from re-posting the whois unless you have been running with bad proxies for the same reason as the re-searching of keywords.

Yes the captcha support was improved in one of the more recent updates so it should be running a lot more smoothly now.

Thanks for the kind words on the updates, more is still to come :)
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